El anillo en DVD

Quiero conseguir El Anillo del Nibelungo en DVD/BD. He visto algunas grabaciones (Levine, Baremboin, Solti, ...), pero me gustaría conocer vuestras recomendaciones. Muchas gracias

Hola
Si quieres fidelidad escenica,Levine en el Met
Si quieres espectaculo,Mehta en el palau
Si quieres aburrirte,Baremboim
Si quieres dormirte,Boulez
¿Solti?....¿en dvd?....¿donde?,no sabia que existiera.
salud

fidel escribió:Hola
Si quieres espectaculo,Mehta en el palau

Para no gastar mucho http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wagner-Ring-Highlights-Nibelungen-Blu-ray/dp/B00430EQK8



Si te gusta te compras un anillo completo.

fidel escribió:Hola

Si quieres dormirte,Boulez

un saludo,
fidel

Pues cuando lo vi ,me parecio infumable.....pero despues de haber leido El perfecto Wagneriano me lo tengo que replantear.La verdad es que de la escenografia de Chereau, no me entere de nada y la direccion me parecio oscura ....lastima que lo vendi...
salud

fidel escribió: Pues cuando lo vi ,me parecio infumable.....pero despues de haber leido El perfecto Wagneriano me lo tengo que replantear.La verdad es que de la escenografia de Chereau, no me entere de nada y la direccion me parecio oscura ....lastima que lo vendi...
salud

dale otra oportunidad...
es una autentica pieza de orfebreria teatral...no sobra ni el más mínimo gesto...
(sencillamente chereau es un genio absoluto)

...incluso la dirección musical no canta demasiado ante el despliegue teatral....

un saludo

Comprendo...cuando lo vi,ya hace unos años, no entendi a Wotan vestido de banquero en un ambiente tan oscuro.Despues de leer a Shaw y sus puntos de vista lo veo de otra manera...y es que estoy en continuo aprendizaje,que remedio.
Le dare otra oportunidad,dessde luego.
salud

Pues no sabia que existia lo de Solti,es un documental,pero tiene que estar de PM.
salud

http://www.wagnermania.com/foro/archivo/mensajes.asp?f=wagner&idC=W2744

La de Stuttgat la vi en canal Clasico hace unos años,no me gusto nada,recuerdo que Sigfrido parecia un rockero vestido con una camiseta de su propiop grupo:Sigfried....estoy bastante de acuerdo con lo que se dice en el foro de wagnermania....si es la primera vez que se ve, la de Levine es la adecuada...y probablemente la mejor cantada,sin ser nada del otro mundo en ese aspecto.Si lo que se quiere es escuchar cantar bien,hay que irse al cd.....
El de Boulez me la tengo que replantear...pero esta carisima.
salud

Únicamente salvo el de Boulez.

Habiendo unos Anillos en audio tan referenciales (Kna, Krauss, Keilberth, Solti...)
las versiones en DVD quedan a años luz.

Estoy de acuerdo.....en parte.El anillo es para ver....cuando se conoce lo visto ya se puede escuchar porque lo demas te viene a la cabeza por si solo.¿no te parece?....yo creo que la mejor forma de desanimar futuros wagnerianos es ponerles a escuchar sin mas.
salud

fidel escribió: Estoy de acuerdo.....en parte.El anillo es para ver....cuando se conoce lo visto ya se puede escuchar porque lo demas te viene a la cabeza por si solo.¿no te parece?....yo creo que la mejor forma de desanimar futuros wagnerianos es ponerles a escuchar sin mas.
salud

bueno, si es con afán didáctico, no pongo objeciones...

entiendo...,tu no crees que el anillo sea una obra de arte total,solo consideras la musica...es una opcion,desde luego.
salud

Diría que El anillo es para ver, para oír, pero también para leer y, si uno se entusiasma, para estudiar o para escuchar lo que se dice de él. Ánimo con él, sea cual sea la interpretación elegida.

fidel escribió: entiendo...,tu no crees que el anillo sea una obra de arte total,solo consideras la musica...es una opcion,desde luego.
salud

yo no he dicho, ni diría tal cosa; eso lo afirmas tu.
lo que digo, y mantengo, es que las versiones en dvd están a mucha distancia de los audios referenciales;
el día que tengamos los vídeos completos de Wieland Wagner, tendremos la obra de arte total.

vale,vale...vd perdone,lo desafirmo...y tienes mucha razon los dvd estan a años luz de los audios puros y duros.
salud

fidel escribió:vd perdone

eso tampoco, hombre.

de buen rollo....
salud

Siguiendo con las páginas aconsejables:

http://www.wagneropera.net/Recommendations/Recommendations-2008.htm

http://www.princeton.edu/~amoravcs/library/totalitarianism.pdf

La opinión de Richard Fawkes.


Title: The Met Ring
Label: (DG 0730439)

If it's a traditional approach to the Ring you want, in which dragons are dragons and stage directions are pretty much as Wagner requested, then this is the production for you. The sets, by Gunther Schneider-Siemssen, are based on earlier productions and fairy-tale book illustrations, and they look magnificent. The Rainbow Bridge is an impressive rainbow bridge and there are some theatrically memorable moments such as the fire being summoned. The production also happens, as you would expect at the Met, to have a first rate cast, from the impressive James Morris as Wotan to Dawn Upshaw as the Woodbird. Hildegard Behrens gives a powerful performance as Brunnhilde, Siegfried Jerusalem sings not just a touching Siegfried but enjoys himself as a crafty and mischievous Loge.
What Otto Schenk's sometimes perfunctory production doesn't have is the all-absorbing interest of some of the less conventional approaches. It is James Levine's powerful and emotional account of the score, as he draws some intense playing from an orchestra at the top of their form, which really lifts an otherwise safe and steady production.

Production: 2 stars
Music: 4 stars


Title: Chereau Ring
Label: (DG 00440 073 4058/59/62/65)

Patrice Chereau's Bayreuth Centenary Ring may be more than twenty-five years old but it remains an iconic and defining production. Chereau very nearly did not direct it. A theatre director, he didn't know the Ring and didn't think he had time to stage it. Fortunately for us he did. Both he and conductor Pierre Boulez rethought approaches to Wagner, so much so that the orchestra threatened to go on strike if Boulez did not allow them to play the way they'd always played.
Chereau set the action in the Industrial Age at the time the Ring was written, relating it to the political thinking of the time and humanising the characters. Rheingold opens with the Rhinemaidens on the game by a hydro-electric power station; there is the striking image of the steam hammer from which the sword is forged, and liberal use of dry ice throughout. The cast was the cast of the day led by Donald McIntyre's frock-coated industrialist Wotan, and a redoubtable but touching Brunnhilde from Gwyneth Jones. Boulez pared back the music to, at times, chamber orchestra proportions. The result was a triumph which redefined Wagner production for the modern era and is still as powerful today as when first seen.

Production: 5 stars Music:
5 stars


Title: Kupfer Bayreuth Ring
Label: Warner Classics 2564623192

Hailed by many as the production which brought Wagner and Bayreuth into the modern, Harry Kupfer's 1988 Ring was one of the earliest productions to be recorded in High Definition (it was filmed in 1991). It's been issued on DVD in the original widescreen format and with surround sound taken from the Unitel recordings made at the same time.
It is an outstanding set both because of Kupfer's production and because of its young, vibrant cast. Anne Evans, proves you don't have to look like a Hoffnung cartoon to sing Brunnhilde, while the Wotan of John Tomlinson is sung and acted with impressive conviction. It was his first time in the role for Tomlinson, and also the first Ring Cycle for Daniel Barenboim (one of whose assistants was Antonio Pappano).
Kupfer's take on the opera was that it occurs at a crossroads on the highway of history, the meeting place of past, present and future. This highway dominates the set with laser beams used to create effects and location changes. As an approach it was certainly adventurous and pushed the boundaries. Just as Kupfer drew intense acting performances from his largely young cast, so Barenboim drew lyrical, passionate singing.

Production: 4 stars
Music: 5 stars


Title: The Kupfer Berlin Ring
Label: (Opus Arte OA0911 D)

Kupfer was invited to Berlin in the late 1990s to remake his Bayreuth Ring. The subsequent production was later staged in Barcelona where it was recorded for television. While there are elements in common, this second version looks fundamentally different. The highway of life has been replaced by the ash tree from which Wotan pulled his spear. As the action proceeds and the gods' power wanes, the tree shrinks. Although the costumes look familiar, there's a more futuristic look to the sets (again by Hans Schavernoch), that is, when you can see them because much of this production is very dark. Once again there's liberal use of laser lighting, but it's not as striking as in the earlier production. The singing is always competent, sometimes very good. Falk Struckmann is an authoritative Wotan but a little prissy; there is none of the playfulness in his relationship with Brunnhilde (the powerful Deborah Polaski) one gets between John Tomlinson and Anne Evans. Bertrand de Billy draws some lovely playing from the orchestra but without ever getting totally under the surface of the music. Compared to Kupfer's own Bayreuth cycle, this lacks excitement. It is, and this is not a word one expects to use of any Kupfer production, ordinary.

Production: 3 stars
Music: 3 stars


Title: Stuttgart Ring Cycle
Label: TDK 10 5399 9 (7 DVDs)

The recent Stuttgart Ring was the first time apparently that a Ring cycle has been produced with a different director allocated to each opera. The results are, inevitably perhaps, uneven but never less than fascinating. All the directors went for an update. Das Rheingold is set in a 1930s health spa with Wotan chairman of the board, Die Walkure has him as a caretaker in a school. Siegfried (described by its director as a 'glum comedy') is played out in a kitchen/workshop in a run-down tenement block with Brunnhilde's rock a rococo bedroom. Gotterdammerung is being performed by a touring theatrical company and has a cunningly contrived ending that is a masterpiece of Brechtian alienation: Wagner's stage directions for the burning of Valhalla scroll up on a screen for the audience to read and interpret as they wish.
Not only are the directors different for each opera, so, too, are the casts and while most of the singing is quite acceptable (and occasionally, as in the case of Luana DeVol's Brunnhilde, very good) some is decidedly below par. The only common factor to the four productions is conductor Lothar Zagrosek. A safe pair of hands, he knows just when to let rip.

Production: 3 stars
Music: 3 stars


Title:The Amsterdam Cycle
Label: (Opus Arte OA 0946 D)

At the opposite extreme to the kitsch of the Met's cycle, comes Pierre Audi's production from Amsterdam, only the first part of which has so far been issued. Audi has done away with conventional sets and uses wood, metal, stone and glass blocks to create spaces in which the action can happen. It is a very technical production with something always being built. The placing of the orchestra is also unconventional. For much of the cycle, there is a vast runway from the stage around the orchestra and back to the stage, so that the orchestra is in the middle of the action. On other occasions, Audi has the orchestra actually on the stage. Both sitings give the singers occasional problems seeing the conductor and there is also some pushing to get over the orchestral sound. John Brocheler is, at times, a dry-voiced Wotan, but there is a striking Alberich from Henk Smit and the ever-reliable Graham Clark is Mime. Conductor Hartmut Haenchen doesn't hang around, driving the score forward relentlessly. But there's enough going on here to make one look forward to the complete cycle being issued on DVD.

Production: 4 stars
Music: 4 stars

Definitivamente me voy a replantear el anillo de Boulez/Chereau.
salud

Alguna gente del Real que controla este tema no suele aconsejar ninguna en DVD o similar, pero últimamente una que se suele usar para ilustrar algunas cosas es la de Barenboim, que no suele ser de mi agrado, y aquí sí.

Der Ring des Nibelungen - Barenboim - Bayreuth 1991-93. Jerusalem, Brinkmann, Svenden, Tomlinson, Clark, Meier. Daniel Barenboim - Festival de Bayreuth.

Ya he visto el de Baremboim....me refiero al de Boulez porque ya lo vi en su momento y no me gusto nada,pero fue hace años y creo que no esdtaba preparado para entender aquello....pero visto las opiniuones de los foreros y las de los especialistas ,no tengo mas remedio que retomarlo.
Esto de tener dos hilos abiertos del anillo a la vez es un rollo
salud

fidel escribió:Ya he visto el de Baremboim....me refiero al de Boulez porque ya lo vi en su momento y no me gusto nada,pero fue hace años y creo que no esdtaba preparado para entender aquello....pero visto las opiniuones de los foreros y las de los especialistas ,no tengo mas remedio que retomarlo.
Esto de tener dos hilos abiertos del anillo a la vez es un rollo
salud

Es cierto, poca eficiencia es esto de llevar dos hilos sobre lo mismo. ¿No será posible una reunificación? A ver el administrador o el autor de este hilo que dicen de trasladar la conversación de uno para el otro...